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The List of Dizzy Games

Postby Dizzy19 » Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:34 pm

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+___Hi, everyone.
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+___I am attempting to create a history of the Dizzy universe.
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+___I have created the list of Dizzy games that appears below. It should be ordered chronologically, but for the moment only the first few entries are correctly set.
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+___Please let me know if there is any official list of Dizzy games somewhere.
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Re: The List of Dizzy Games

Postby Adz.M » Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:36 pm

Dizzy19 wrote:Please let me know if there is any official list of Dizzy games somewhere.


:v2_dizzy_confused2:
I don't quite understand what you're trying to achieve here but our Official list is here.
- http://www.yolkfolk.com/games/official
All the release dates are marked on this list.

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Re: The List of Dizzy Games

Postby Dizzy19 » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:10 pm

Adz.M wrote:I don't quite understand what you're trying to achieve here

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+___Hi, Adz.M.
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+___Thank you for replying to my post.
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+___Alright, I have used a misnomer. By "official" I did not mean the Dizzy games that are protected by copyright owned by Phillip Oliver, by Andrew Oliver and by the Codemasters Software Company Limited.
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+___I would rather use the term "comprehensive" instead. My intent is to chronologically sort the above comprehensive list upon the release date of each game. This way, one could easily see how Dizzy has evolved from "Dizzy I: The Ultimate Cartoon Adventure" released in the month of June of the year of 1987 toward the DizzyAGE series and how the remakes have been issued.
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+___A manual work - which has already been started, as you can see - would use the data found in the following locations:
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+___ http://www.yolkfolk.com/games/official
+___ http://www.yolkfolk.com/games/fan
+___ http://www.yolkfolk.com/dizzyage/history.html
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+___An automated approach would use a SQL query such as the following one:
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+___SELECT title, release_date
+___FROM ( SELECT title, release_date
+___________FROM official_games
+___________UNION ALL
+___________SELECT title, release_date
+___________FROM fan_games )
+___ORDER BY release_date;
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+___As I do not have access to such an automated approach, I intend to perform this work manually.
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+___I would like to note that the data that is maintained within the Yolk Folk Web-Site is not exhaustive. For instance, there is a Czech version of Dizzy created for the ZX Spectrum microcomputer produced by Sinclair Research Limited that does not appear on this web-site.
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+___There is, unfortunately, another impediment related to the non-English speaking authors, whose sources are more difficult to parse. Also, unfortunately, I do not speak either Czech, or Polish, or Russian. I hope to overcome this issue using Google Translate.
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Last edited by Dizzy19 on Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:56 am, edited 3 times in total.
"Please find the Comprehensive List of Dizzy Games at the following Uniform Resource Locator:"

https://1drv.ms/x/s!Am7QvREkJBcagvB27g-OuIeLrn44cg

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Re: The List of Dizzy Games

Postby Adz.M » Sun Mar 26, 2017 6:24 pm

Dizzy19 wrote:
Adz.M wrote:Alright, I have used a misnomer. By "official" I did not mean the Dizzy games that are protected by copyright owned by Richard Oliver, by Andrew Oliver and by the Codemasters Software Company Limited.


You mean Philip and Andrew Oliver? :)

I can kinda see what you mean now.

When the Yolkfolk site was being rebulit 10 years ago, the original plan was to include every single fan title.
But there's some fan games we completely lost track of and have accidentally been missed or forgotten about.

Swiat Dizzy (http://www.dizzy.pl) has a few titles that aren't even hosted on Yolkfolk.

As for a proper full list of every single Dizzy fan game in existence....Yeah, I don't think there is one and I agree it is very difficult to make your own list when various Dizzy sites have different games that the other sites don't have. :v2_dizzy_scared:

Just a random stab in the dark, but I don't suppose you keep any of the listed games do you?
The reason I ask is because we had some of our game downloads mysteriously wiped a few months ago, a vast majority was brought back online via a backup but we are now missing the download for 'Jungleland Dizzy' (http://www.yolkfolk.com/games/jungleland-dizzy).
No worries if not. :)

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Re: The List of Dizzy Games

Postby Dizzy19 » Sun Mar 26, 2017 9:03 pm

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+___ Hi, Adz.M.
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+___No, I do not have copies of the games. If I find any, I shall present them to you somehow.
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+___Also, where is "Platform Fever II"?
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"Please find the Comprehensive List of Dizzy Games at the following Uniform Resource Locator:"

https://1drv.ms/x/s!Am7QvREkJBcagvB27g-OuIeLrn44cg

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Re: The List of Dizzy Games

Postby Adz.M » Sun Mar 26, 2017 10:11 pm

Golly, what a list! :v2_dizzy_blink:

Sam Walker is the one behind the 'Platform Fever' series from the early 2000's.

I'm not 100% sure of the full story but I recall reading a long time ago that he was making 4 or 5 Platform Fever games, he completed them but were all lost when his Computer died.

Strangely, only Platform Fever III survived, then Platform Fever IV was released as a demo.

He was planning to re-do Platform Fever I and II from scratch years ago.
But he only got as far as making Platform Fever I a playable demo, nothing else happened since.

I did make a few more fan games in the past, but I too fell victim to a series of PC problems over the years and lost them. :(

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Re: The List of Dizzy Games

Postby Dizzy19 » Mon Mar 27, 2017 4:16 am

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+___Hi, Adz.M.
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+___It is sad that so many games have been lost. Let us try to preserve at least what exists in the present.
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"Please find the Comprehensive List of Dizzy Games at the following Uniform Resource Locator:"

https://1drv.ms/x/s!Am7QvREkJBcagvB27g-OuIeLrn44cg

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Re: The List of Dizzy Games

Postby boo » Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:51 am

Spindizzy had nothing to do with the Dizzy series....
I fully intend to...OOOH! Shiny things! :v2_dizzy_eek:
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Re: The List of Dizzy Games

Postby Dizzy19 » Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:15 am

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+___Hi, Boo.
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+___Yes, I know. It is even documented on Wikipedia at the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spindizzy_(video_game) Uniform Resource Locator. Still, most of the Dizzy-related websites are listing it in the Dizzy listings. I hoped that there was a Spin Dizzy that I was not aware of.
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+___Consider it removed.
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https://1drv.ms/x/s!Am7QvREkJBcagvB27g-OuIeLrn44cg

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Re: The List of Dizzy Games

Postby Dizzy19 » Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:57 pm

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+___Hi, everyone.
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+___My burdened conscience tells me that I should do something with the numbering of the Dizzy games list, for the sake of our children, of our grandchildren and for all of the generations to come.
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+___The first reason for a good numbering would be that at least a total count of the known Dizzy games should be kept somewhere. Here, our Russian friends are - as always - better equipped, as their Dizzy games lists keep even the platform implementations. My list does not say anything about that. It just aims to cover all the Dizzy paraphernalia in all the known virtual universes.
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+___So, if a little child ever asks anyone how many Dizzy games are out there, on the Internet, an approximate answer would be 396. This number includes all of the remakes. Without remakes, my initial post in this thread led to a smaller number. An even greater number would be produced by including the platform implementations.
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+___Through platform implementations I mean listing all the possible microcomputer architectures on which the games are running: 8-bit (ZX Spectrum by Sinclair Research Limited, C64 by Commodore, Amiga, Atari, Amstrad CPC, Nintendo NES, Gameboy Advance), 32-bit and 64-bit (IBM-PC: DOSBox and DizzyAGE). This would lead to another difficult investigation in the non-English Dizzy sites.
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+___Therefore, I have kept the first series of Arabian numerical identifiers (001-396). They are just kept for reference. I doubt that anyone will use them. People will probably continue searching for games using character strings.
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+___My initial approach was to also keep the second series of Roman numerical identifiers (I - CCCXCVI). This is both tedious and useless. The only use that I could think of is to chronologically order the first Dizzy games that were known and referred using their Roman numerical identifiers (I - XII). However, after chronologically ordering the whole list, I have got the surprise to see that - probably because of lack of data - people have misnumbered them. Now, the Roman numerical identifiers appear chronologically as follows below.
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+___I think that I have finally got it. The Roman numbering is actually correct. It is just that some Roman numeric identifiers are not really Roman at all, but they are rather simple letters. This way, Y would stand for XI (11). XII (12) comes naturally this way. The only one that breaks the numbering is XX that could be understood as X-Bis and not as 20 - like a joke.
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+___There are other letters used for designing Dizzy games, such as Dizzy A, Dizzy B, Dizzy R, Dizzy X, Dizzy Y, Dizzy Z, Dizzy XP, Dizzy XX.
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+___Dizzy I
+___Dizzy II
+___Dizzy III
+___Dizzy IV
+___Dizzy V
+___Dizzy III.V (One would expect that this would have occurred before Dizzy IV.)
+___Dizzy VI
+___Dizzy VII
+___Dizzy VII+ or Dizzy VIII
+___Dizzy VII++ or Dizzy IX
+___Dizzy X Part I
+___Dizzy X Part II (Dizzy Y or Dizzy XI)
+___Dizzy XX (This one is now understood as Dizzy X-Bis and not as Dizzy 20.)
+___Dizzy XII
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+___This being said, I am presenting the Comprehensive List of Dizzy Games at the end of this post. There are still some things that I want to do.
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+___The first thing that I still have to do is to dig within the Dizzy history web pages and come up with the points and with the places that some of the Dizzy games have won during the contests and to update the list accordingly. For the moment, the list has incomplete data in this respect.
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+___The second thing - which is harder to achieve - is to go on with Adz.M's idea to find out the missing games. They may be more that I am aware of, but, for the moment, I am aware only of four Dizzy games that are not present in the http://www.yolkfolk.com domain.
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+___The difficulty lies in something that I have noticed recently. I am maintaining a nice subscription to a Romanian-localized version of the "Peter Norton Security Online" Antiviral Software Suite. It has warned me before that websites such as the World of Spectrum are reported as unsafe. I have ignored this warning and, eventually, I have caught up a Trojan Horse. The before-mentioned nice piece of Antiviral Software Suite has successfully removed it, but how do I know that I am not infecting myself and other Dizzy gamers in the future?
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+___This trickiest part would also gather data about the various platform implementations.
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Last edited by Dizzy19 on Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:52 pm, edited 18 times in total.
"Please find the Comprehensive List of Dizzy Games at the following Uniform Resource Locator:"

https://1drv.ms/x/s!Am7QvREkJBcagvB27g-OuIeLrn44cg